Libertarians suck (part nth-mplth)

15 10 2011

Yes, I read Marginal Revolution, and no, I’m not able to restrain myself from reading the comments.

But this post—yeesh!

Por ejemplo:

8 October 14, 2011 at 7:28 am

Universal suffrage is a bad idea.

Reply

msgkings October 14, 2011 at 11:58 am

It’s incredibly elitist and non-pc to say so, but I agree.

And it doesn’t have to be as complex as evaluating for ‘bad’ voting behavior. Simply apply intelligence testing to voting rights. Not every dumdum is a ‘bad’ (disengaged, useless, etc) voter, but obviously the smarter your voting electorate, the better your outcomes.

I’ve come to believe that the democratic system set up here in the late 18th century worked so well for so long because suffrage was NOT universal. You had to be a landowning white male to vote in the early years. This didn’t guarantee that each voter was of a higher caliber, but it undoubtedly made the average or median voter of greater quality and intelligence. In this day and age of course you wouldn’t need to restrict based on race or gender, or wealth. But I think restricting voters AND candidates to IQs of 100+ (sorry Perry and Palin!) could only help outcomes.

It goes without saying that this will NEVER EVER happen.

Or how about the commenter who cites Robert Heinlein’s Starship Troopers approvingly:

Thoma Hawk October 14, 2011 at 11:58 am

This veteran agrees with you. As I state later in this post, I think suffrage should be given only to those with demonstrable responsibility, education, service, maturity, and loyalty.

Robert Heinlein’s vision in Starship Troopers was one where only discharged veterans had the right to vote and hold public office. It’s a move in the right direction.

Age is an arbitrary determinant. There are incredibly mature and intelligent 19 year olds. There are incredibly immature and uneducated 30 year olds. But age and maturity are strongly correlated. And certain experience are worth many times as much as a year of education.

So how about raising the voting age with a military service exception? I’m open to all suggestions for improvement, including persuasive arguments the franchise age should be lowered. I think lowering the voting age was a political ploy and not much thought went into it.

No, they’re not all nuts, but Dasher, Donner, and Blitzen, it makes me want to take away their rights to comment on blogs.

(Okay, okay, I know: I have to make the argument on why libertarianism-as-governing-theory is bad, and not just snark on libertarians, but it’s Saturday night and I’m drinking wine, so gimme a break. The argument will have to wait until coffee.)

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